2017 Jeep Rubicon Hard Rock
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Old 10-09-2015, 04:01 AM
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Rubicon vs Hard Rock Rubicon
There is a $5k difference between the Rubicon and Hard Rock Rubicon.
What are the technical differences and are they worth the $5k?
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Old 10-09-2015, 07:27 AM
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They lay it out pretty well in the brochures and on the website.
At a glance:
Mechanical
* Steel front and rear bumpers
Electrical
* Standard Connectivity Group (EVIC, Bluetooth, Tire Pressure/Engine Data display)
* Alpine 9 Speaker Premium Sound w/ weather resistant Sub
Cosmetic
* Power Dome Hood (with Vents and Drainage)
* Standard Heated Leather Seats
* Different Color Wheels (Black instead of Gray)
* Red Tow Hooks
Is it worth it? Only you can say that. But I bet if you added up all the extras as individual options and accessories it would come to more. At least most companies are usually smart enough to do that.
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Old 10-09-2015, 09:05 AM
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I mised the part about bumpers being steel. I wonder if a winch can easily be mounted inside the front steel bumper.
The rest are features that don't make the HR Rubi any more capable then the standard Rubi it seems to me.
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Old 10-09-2015, 09:25 AM
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I hear ya, but it fully depends on what capability you're talking about.
Crawling, nope?
Keeping Momma happy in the heated leather passenger seat, YUP (in my case).
All depends on your wants.
That's why I just ordered a Willys in disguise (A Sahara with most of the mechanical upgrades from the Willys, lol).
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Old 10-09-2015, 09:58 AM
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I mised the part about bumpers being steel. I wonder if a winch can easily be mounted inside the front steel bumper.
Yes - you need a special mount plate and have to be careful with winch selection (not all will fit) but it's a nice clean look when completed.
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Old 10-09-2015, 12:06 PM
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This is my hard rock and the biggest winch u can fit the warn zeon s10 I made my own winch plate
Aside from what was mentioned u get the rocker sliders and the special stitching on the seats and hand rest and for hand rests
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Old 10-09-2015, 12:59 PM
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Pretty much the HR is a hopped up version of the Rubicon. You don't have to replace the plastic bumpers, and you get some interior nicies. Like someone said, the cost increase is up to you.
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Old 10-09-2015, 06:24 PM
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Pretty much the HR is a hopped up version of the Rubicon. You don't have to replace the plastic bumpers, and you get some interior nicies. Like someone said, the cost increase is up to you.
Lol every jeeper that I have met wished they had the hood from the hardrock and there comment towards my jeep is worth the extra $$ that comes with it lol
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Old 10-09-2015, 08:52 PM
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Also, you get a steel air dam under the front bumper which offers a little(?) more protection to the disco motor. The bumpers are made by a company called Maximus 3 and you can go to their web site and look at goodies designed to bolt on. Oh, you should also get a Warn winch kit from the dealer (you may have to ask for it) when you pick up your Hard Rock. It has a strap, gloves, couple of d-rings, and a carry bag. You get the cool MT type floor mats, standard. The HR rock rails are tubed out a couple of inches. Just short enough to not be a useful step. That's about all I can think of now.
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Old 10-09-2015, 08:56 PM
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Also, you get a steel air dam under the front bumper which offers a little(?) more protection to the disco motor. The bumpers are made by a company called Maximus 3 and you can go to their web site and look at goodies designed to bolt on. Oh, you should also get a Warn winch kit from the dealer (you may have to ask for it) when you pick up your Hard Rock. It has a strap, gloves, couple of d-rings, and a carry bag. You get the cool MT type floor mats, standard. The HR rock rails are tubed out a couple of inches. Just short enough to not be a useful step. That's about all I can think of now.
I never knew about the trail bag thingy I wonder if I go and ask for it if they will give me one lol
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The hard rock is essentially the same as the 10th anniversary and the Rubi X. If you are the .001% of buyers that plans to leave his Jeep bone stock, but take it off-road regularly, then I see how it makes sense. Outside of that, worthless.
Don't plan to take it offroad? Then you don't want a Rubicon at all.
Plan to upgrade? Then join the 95% who bought one of the above models and sold off almost everything that $5k package came with. The rock sliders are still a joke. It's around $750 to get a tire swing for the rear bumper and it's a terrible design. The rear bumper integrates with the fenders, so get any new fender and it looks terrible.
Installing a winch in the front bumper will make you want to knock yourself out (this is all from personal experience, btw). The front bumper literally falls apart at the sight of a trail. It's a real POS. But hey, you get a really cool looking hood that you could buy for $700.
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Old 10-10-2015, 01:45 AM
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I never knew about the trail bag thingy I wonder if I go and ask for it if they will give me one lol
Trail bag is also crap. Get a real recovery kit. And the steel front air dam... Lost a good cutoff wheel to that tin crap.
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Old 10-10-2015, 03:21 AM
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The hard rock is essentially the same as the 10th anniversary and the Rubi X. If you are the .001% of buyers that plans to leave his Jeep bone stock, but take it off-road regularly, then I see how it makes sense. Outside of that, worthless.
Don't plan to take it offroad? Then you don't want a Rubicon at all.
Plan to upgrade? Then join the 95% who bought one of the above models and sold off almost everything that $5k package came with. The rock sliders are still a joke. It's around $750 to get a tire swing for the rear bumper and it's a terrible design. The rear bumper integrates with the fenders, so get any new fender and it looks terrible.
Installing a winch in the front bumper will make you want to knock yourself out (this is all from personal experience, btw). The front bumper literally falls apart at the sight of a trail. It's a real POS. But hey, you get a really cool looking hood that you could buy for $700.
A little harsh aren�t you and where do you get those ridiculous % figures from?
The Rubicon is a great platform to start from. For those that are wanting extreme axles and really huge tires and such then yes, it�s probably best to forgo a Rubi and build to your hearts content. Other than that I think you are way off base.
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Old 10-10-2015, 07:11 AM
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You know his % numbers are made up. 
Pretty much any jeeper that comes here modifies their jeep in some way. The HR Rubi seems like it could be a great starting point even though it's definitely at the top of the scale because of the upgrades it comes standard with. Yes I like interior upgrades that don't make the jeep any more capable also. Being older, I have grown accustomed to creature comforts.
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Old 10-10-2015, 08:43 AM
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here's a pretty amazing statistic to wrap your head around - 100% of all jeep owners own a jeep! this isn't a made up number, I can proof it.
I like the HR Rubion, especially the hook.
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